Cost Efficient Bleach Scent Masking

[Blast Away Pressure Washing]

So far I've heard that Gain dish soap works great as a surfactant and as a scent masker but I've also read about products like Lemon - Aide which seem to be pretty expensive in comparison. What would you all recommend? 

 

Thank you!

David Smith

 

 

www.BlastAwayPressureWashing.com

[Apple Roof Cleaning (813) 655-8777]

So far I've heard that Gain dish soap works great as a surfactant and as a scent masker but I've also read about products like Lemon - Aide which seem to be pretty expensive in comparison. What would you all recommend? 

 

Thank you!

David Smith

 

 

www.BlastAwayPressureWashing.com

The chemicals needed to hide the smell of the roof cleaning chemicals can be had below. It is always best to buy direct, but Russ Johnson at Southside Pressure Washing supplies in Louisville KY sells some lemon stuff pretty cheap

 

Mix the fragrance and a surfactant and watch your savings grow  

Your suppliers are using fragrances such as Horizon Aromatics, Chemia, Nilum or FloraChem.

These companies will be happy to sell directly to you.

Cut out the middle man.  Some of the names of these fragrances are going to sound familiar.

 

Fragrances range from $0.25 to $14.99 per pound.  

(The more you pay to the manufacturer of the fragrances, 

the stronger the fragrance may be or 

better job the fragrance does of masking the sodium hypochlorite odor.)

 

Horizon Aromatics: http://www.horizonaromatics.com/

302-224-8305 or Fax at 610-828-0936

201 East Elm Street

Consohohocken, PA 19428

 

Products:  

Rain Clean Scent   4850-CRC, WS

Fresh & Clean 4850-G, WS

Floral Fresh Scent   4850-FR, WS

Apple 4850-APB, WS

Lemon-Lime 4850-L, WS

Pine 4850-PINE, WS

Pine 4850-PIN, WS

Other Fresh Scent #4850 series, please ask

Hypochlorite Deodorant  4851 series, please ask

 

Chemia Corporation:  http://www.chemiacorp.com/

11558 Rock Island Court  Maryland Heights MO 63043

(314) 567-0013  (800) 726-1976 Fax (314) 567-0081

  

Products:  

Green Apple 

Mountain Air

Fresh Fragrance 

Clean and Fresh

Wintergreen

Sassafrass 

Citrus

Lemon  

Orange

Nilum:  http://www.nilodor.com/  

10966 Industrial Parkway NW  Bolivar OH 44612  

Products:  Rain Fresh Nilium, Green Apple Nilium

       

 

FloraChem:  http://www.florachem.com/

5209 San Jose Blvd

Jacksonville, FL 32207

By phone:  1-800-305-1926   

1-904-733-5759   By Fax:  904-733-5950

 

Products:  Green Apple   

 

 

[Blast Away Pressure Washing]

Thank you Chris.  I'm looking forward to being a member of these forums and becoming RCIA Certified. 

[Apple Roof Cleaning (813) 655-8777]

Thank you Chris.  I'm looking forward to being a member of these forums and becoming RCIA Certified. 

you are well on your way my friend! 

[Advantage Roof Cleaning]

Chris, roughly how much could one expect to spend on masking per 100 gallons of solution not including cost of shipping?

[Apple Roof Cleaning (813) 655-8777]

Chris, roughly how much could one expect to spend on masking per 100 gallons of solution not including cost of shipping?

It has been a long time since we had the need to mask the scent of the roof cleaning chemicals Dave.

Prices have surely changed since we tried it last, but it was like 25 - 50 dollars for a 300 gallon tank full of chemicals.

[Blast Away Pressure Washing]

Here's what I've found from Horizon Aromatics. These can be mixed with SH and a surfactant like Roof Snot. Gain still seems like the most cost efficient surfactant though considering it is much cheaper than Roof Snot and gain already has scents... using Gain just makes... sense.

 

David

 

 

 

Product

400 Lbs

200 Lbs

100 Lbs

50 Lbs

25 Lbs

10 Lbs

5 Lbs

1 Lb

Lemon-Lime 4850-L, WS

7.55

7.67

7.85

8.14

8.73

11.09

19.35

25.37

Rain 4850-H, WS

7.85

7.97

8.14

8.44

9.03

11.39

19.65

25.67

Fresh Scent 4850-G, WS

8.61

8.73

8.91

9.20

9.79

12.15

20.41

26.43

Fresh & Clean 4853-AB, WS

12.92

13.04

13.22

13.51

14.10

16.46

24.72

30.74

Pine 4850-PINE, WS

7.67

7.79

7.97

8.26

8.85

11.21

19.47

25.49

Prices are per LB.           Prices subject to fluctuation.  Please call (302) 224-8305 to speak with your salesperson or customer service representative to confirm pricing when placing an order. 1 Lb. orders may be subject to a   non-stock product fee.

 

1 pound of this stuff will go a long, long way.

[Blast Away Pressure Washing]

Well, that table did not post well. The cost per pound goes up as you decease in order size. The costs in the $20 range is for 1lb. This company is great if you're looking to mix your own scents because they will ship you free samples to check out.

[Apple Roof Cleaning (813) 655-8777]

Here's what I've found from Horizon Aromatics. These can be mixed with SH and a surfactant like Roof Snot. Gain still seems like the most cost efficient surfactant though considering it is much cheaper than Roof Snot and gain already has scents... using Gain just makes... sense.

 

David

 

 

 

Product

400 Lbs

200 Lbs

100 Lbs

50 Lbs

25 Lbs

10 Lbs

5 Lbs

1 Lb

Lemon-Lime 4850-L, WS

7.55

7.67

7.85

8.14

8.73

11.09

19.35

25.37

Rain 4850-H, WS

7.85

7.97

8.14

8.44

9.03

11.39

19.65

25.67

Fresh Scent 4850-G, WS

8.61

8.73

8.91

9.20

9.79

12.15

20.41

26.43

Fresh & Clean 4853-AB, WS

12.92

13.04

13.22

13.51

14.10

16.46

24.72

30.74

Pine 4850-PINE, WS

7.67

7.79

7.97

8.26

8.85

11.21

19.47

25.49

Prices are per LB.           Prices subject to fluctuation.  Please call (302) 224-8305 to speak with your salesperson or customer service representative to confirm pricing when placing an order. 1 Lb. orders may be subject to a   non-stock product fee.

 

1 pound of this stuff will go a long, long way.

The absolute BEST chlorine stable surfactant is Ammonyx MO (Myristamine)

[Blast Away Pressure Washing]

Does Ammonyx MO only come in a powdered form or can you get it liquid? I'm looking to try some from Stepan

[Advantage Roof Cleaning]

Does Ammonyx MO only come in a powdered form or can you get it liquid? I'm looking to try some from Stepan

MO does not come in powder form that I'm aware of. I use LO which is in liquid form. I did order a sample of MO once from Stepan. They did not charge me for it either.

[Blast Away Pressure Washing]

Tested out some MO on a couple roofs yesterday. It definitely out performed gain but the scent masking was my issue. I used a pine smell that I got from Horizon Aromatics but it didn't mix into my mix very well. The pine seems like it was an oil that just floated to the top even when I used a strong hose tip to mix it in. If I could find a better scent-masker I'd go with MO but until then Gain is what I'll be using. 

 

I've got a 5 gallon bucket of Roof Snot but I'm guessing I'll have the same issue here. Anyone have any suggestions? 

[Apple Roof Cleaning (813) 655-8777]

Tested out some MO on a couple roofs yesterday. It definitely out performed gain but the scent masking was my issue. I used a pine smell that I got from Horizon Aromatics but it didn't mix into my mix very well. The pine seems like it was an oil that just floated to the top even when I used a strong hose tip to mix it in. If I could find a better scent-masker I'd go with MO but until then Gain is what I'll be using. 

 

I've got a 5 gallon bucket of Roof Snot but I'm guessing I'll have the same issue here. Anyone have any suggestions? 

Pine Oil will do that, unless you use Ethanol to make it disperse.

[Josh Davis]

I got a sample pack from Chemia. I liked all of the cover scents that they sent me but I only tried them with ds house wash mix. The sample sizes were not large enough for a batch of Roof mix. the orange and green apple for my favorite out of the ones they sent me, but the fresh scent did the best job of covering up date chlorine smell. I actually couldn't smell bleach at all. It just smells like laundry detergent or something.

[PressureWasherProducts]

Hello Fellow Members!

 

I shared all the contact information with you to save you money!  You are going to see an incredible savings once you purchase the fragrance separately.  Please keep in mind that there are more companies our there.  You can even go to Home Depot and buy a gallon of a very effective SH stable fragrance for $9.99.  It is located on the bottom shelf at every store that I have been to.  Walmart has it, too.  Lowes does not seem to carry it.

 

I am proud of those for thinking outside of the box.  Shop locally whenever possible to save yourself shipping!

[Apple Roof Cleaning (813) 655-8777]

Hello Fellow Members!

 

I shared all the contact information with you to save you money!  You are going to see an incredible savings once you purchase the fragrance separately.  Please keep in mind that there are more companies our there.  You can even go to Home Depot and buy a gallon of a very effective SH stable fragrance for $9.99.  It is located on the bottom shelf at every store that I have been to.  Walmart has it, too.  Lowes does not seem to carry it.

 

I am proud of those for thinking outside of the box.  Shop locally whenever possible to save yourself shipping!

What is it Lori ?

[PressureWasherProducts]

ODOBAN!  

 

I apologize for my lack of signature.  I can't figure it out.

[Roof Snot]

Well, that table did not post well. The cost per pound goes up as you decease in order size. The costs in the $20 range is for 1lb. This company is great if you're looking to mix your own scents because they will ship you free samples to check out.

A 1 gallon jug of Lemon-Aid or Cherry Bomb! weighs about 8 lbs. At $69.00 per gallon, that's $8.63 / lb. 4 - 8 liquid ounces in 50 gallons will completely cover the smell. If purchased 5 gallons at a time, your cost goes down to $7.48 / lb.

 

Tested out some MO on a couple roofs yesterday. It definitely out performed gain but the scent masking was my issue. I used a pine smell that I got from Horizon Aromatics but it didn't mix into my mix very well. The pine seems like it was an oil that just floated to the top even when I used a strong hose tip to mix it in. If I could find a better scent-masker I'd go with MO but until then Gain is what I'll be using. 

 

I've got a 5 gallon bucket of Roof Snot but I'm guessing I'll have the same issue here. Anyone have any suggestions? 

Lemon-Aid and Cherry Bomb! will readily mix with any amine oxide compound like our Roof Snot.

[Apple Roof Cleaning (813) 655-8777]

A 1 gallon jug of Lemon-Aid or Cherry Bomb! weighs about 8 lbs. At $69.00 per gallon, that's $8.63 / lb. 4 - 8 liquid ounces in 50 gallons will completely cover the smell. If purchased 5 gallons at a time, your cost goes down to $7.48 / lb.

 

Lemon-Aid and Cherry Bomb! will readily mix with any amine oxide compound like our Roof Snot.

I am hearing good things about Lemon Aid

 

 

ODOBAN!  

 

I apologize for my lack of signature.  I can't figure it out.

I figured it out for you, and added it Lori.

[Blast Away Pressure Washing]

A 1 gallon jug of Lemon-Aid or Cherry Bomb! weighs about 8 lbs. At $69.00 per gallon, that's $8.63 / lb. 4 - 8 liquid ounces in 50 gallons will completely cover the smell. If purchased 5 gallons at a time, your cost goes down to $7.48 / lb.

 

Lemon-Aid and Cherry Bomb! will readily mix with any amine oxide compound like our Roof Snot.

I'll have to try out some of the Lemon-Aid. I'm willing to give it a shot but using Gain is so much more simple than having to buy surfactants and scents and get them shipped in. 

 

I'm always willing to try something new! That's the only way to make progress.

[ReNew Roof & Exterior cleaning]

Here is an MSDS of Odoban http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pdfImages/9e/9e3d1b9d-1582-40a9-9e82-9c0854db7edf.pdf

[Advantage Roof Cleaning]

I might try the Odoban. Does anyone know if it's compatible with SH?

[Apple Roof Cleaning (813) 655-8777]

I might try the Odoban. Does anyone know if it's compatible with SH?

 

Here is an MSDS of Odoban http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pdfImages/9e/9e3d1b9d-1582-40a9-9e82-9c0854db7edf.pdf

 

Not a good idea to use Odoban with bleach! It says avoid in the MSDS

[Apple Roof Cleaning (813) 655-8777]

ODOBAN!  

 

I apologize for my lack of signature.  I can't figure it out.

Ouch, I looked at the MSDS for Odoban, and it says not to mix with strong oxidizers ?

I fixed your signature for you

[Sussex County Roof Cleaning]

I don't try to mask the scent. It smells clean so people dont have a problem with it.