I've written a ton of posts without any specific product reference. Had a LOT of guys thank me for the posts and a lot of calls and emails on plumbing, tanks setups, system builds and nearly every sticky in the Premium forum. If people object to those, then I'll ask Chris to take them down.
I probably get 30-50 calls and messages a week with guys looking for help with builds. It isn't unual for me to stay up to midnight helping some guy trying to diagnose a build problem so he can be on the job site the next morning. Some end up buying from me, some build their own, some go a different route. As a vendor member, I make no bones about what I feel are the best products, but that comes from time and experience in actually running a multi truck cleaning operation and rebuilding hundreds of pumps, not to mention over 30 complete systems for different customers in 3 different countries and 5 different states. I dare say i've had more AODD pumps through my hands than anybody in the industry and have learned a thing or two about them.
A lot of the things I recommend and have turned the industry on to like the Eaton Compressors and the Tsunami Water separators, neither of which I make one red cent on. I don't make a dime on the sealed tank system design that is helping guys avoid the corrosion issues that have plagued the industry for years. I've also helped countless guys diagnose 12 volt issues, plumbing issues, air issues, hose issues, reel issues. Ive put probably thousands of hours into helping people with builds. A lot of those hours don't result in sales, but I actually enjoy it.
If it isn't appreciated or wanted, so be it. I'll delete the stickied articles you find offensive. Chris will inform me it is time to fuck off. I've got better things to do than to get into a pissing contest here.
Seriously? It does VERTICAL LIFTS to 10 stories with a 20 CFM compressor. And I'll put it up again a 1050 with a 20 CFM compressor any day of the week. Bring it. If you have a personal issue with me, take it private.
If you bothered to READ the website, I never claim the Price will SHOOT 10 stories. No 1" pump will do that. What I say is that it will LIFT FLUID 10 Stories and it will do so with far less CFM than most other competing pumps. It is an alternative to our Flojet pumps which are great, but are limited in head pressure capability. Think that doesn't make any difference? My client who just cleaned a 10 story hospital in Kentucky and my client who cleans 15-20 story buildings in Vancouver will tend to disagree. The Price is more efficient with a low air supply than any other pump I've used and tested and the statement on the Husky 1050 comes from experience with that pump. It it not that it is a bad pump, it is just a pump that requires a lot of air to really wake up. That is real world experience. We tried it. On our truck and in our test rig and then and there decided it wasn't our favorite pump because it needed more air supply than most people had. Sold it to a guy who had a 30 CFM comp and he is perfectly happy with it. I've actually used them ALL on rigs. I've sprayed with the Husky (1040, 1050), ARO (Pro and Expert series), Wilden, Versamatic, Sandpiper, Yamada and Price. I consider the ARO to be a better pump than the Husky any day of the week, and the Price is beyond that in terms of build quality, longevity and efficiency.
Listen to your Son! Come to the Dark Side. Here is your answer...one pull and you are spraying. More distance, but capable of FAR less flow (want to put a 1/2 PM mist nozzle on it? no problem!). No batteries. Just add fuel from time to time (it sips fuel) and change the oil occasionally. Outlaw-C. World's smallest Gas Powered Air Diaphragm Pump system. 10 GPM, dual pump system. Honda Engine. American Built. 22" cube. I have one guy in FL hitting 60 ft with his. YMMV. Outlaw-C Pump System.
The 3/4" pump is off the menu for the time being. I noticed some discrepancies in the specs and contacted them. They discovered I was right and the specification are NOT conrrect. I had a meeting with the VP of Price last week and he apologizes. They completely missed the errors over the last decade and if you look at their website, the pump specs are currently not there as they re-test. So...for anybody looking at a 3/4" Price, I can currently sell the 1" Price in Poly for the SAME COST. And yes, the specs on that pump ARE correct. This is a smoking deal. They also said you cannot stall their pumps. A 1" Pump with a 2.5 CFM air compressor will prove that this coming week.
Try a shooter nozzle. That will give you a more laminar flow and will get you more distance. Honestly, you may get 50 ft out of an electric, but it won't be very effective at that distance. Thing is, your 1" pump isn't very efficient. So the amount of output it has is going to be limited by the CFM you purchased. That is endemic to that particular pump. If you had bought a Price Pump, you would be getting more distance, but the cost is higher. That being said, as compared to 12V, the reliability is off the chart better. Plus...try putting a fine mist nozzle on there and pumping...you can't do that with an electric. You can spray with an 010 or 020 nozzle, saving material and reducing run off. Once you run Air for a while, you'll never go back. As for the Eaton, I probably have 40 of them out in the field that I've recommended to guys and literally have had zero problems with the ones I run and have installed. I had one guy with a defective head and he had a new one from Eaton the next morning. You can always call Matt Cain, the president if you are having issues and my experience is that the few times there were issues, they had solutions nearly immediately. Try that with any other compressor company. Also, I'm assuming you are running a water Separator system.
You'll see it as soon as UPS delivers Gorilla Reel's new Fat Gorilla model made in response to needing bigger reels for bigger/longer hoses. I should have the first two off the production line next week.
I've had a ton of experience with guys stalling 1" pump with icing. I probably took 30-40 calls and emails on pump icing and stalling issues last summer in all different size ranges. The higher the amount of CFM, the more water you will make. Simple physics. Depending on the pump air end design, you can definitely run into icing and stalling issues. 1" pumps run high CFM's and every mfg will tell you to run clean, DRY air into your pump. Also, putting a smaller nozzle on may give you more distance...or it may give you LESS. It depends on the pump and the efficiency curve. The smaller the restriction is, the more the head pressure will rise. The higher the head pressure rises, the more CFM you require to overcome that pressure. At some point the flow starts to decrease. You may not have enough air to maintain the output flow and the pump may even even stall.
Try a bigger nozzle. You may be putting too much head pressure on it with a dinky little 020 nozzle and actually limiting the flow. Put an 040 or an 060 zero degree. If you take the nozzle out and you get nearly the same distance running with just an open quick connect...bingo. That much restriction cranks the head pressure way up and drops the output GPM and you don't have enough air to run high head pressures on a 1050. You can run an 020 but not necessarily for distance. The Husky 1050 isn't my favorite pump which i why I never sold any. They soak up a TON of air. Unlike the earlier 1040, the 1050 is a DEFU pump made in China. If you look at the curve on them, not the best curve in the world. They like a LOT of air. The 5/8" hose...does it have 1/2" or 3/4" end fittings...you want 3/4". If you want a 1" pump that will retain the output with that CFM at high head pressures then nothing is better than the 1" Price.
Sure. You *Could start out with an Outlaw-B and the compressor with your current 1/2" hose and see how it sprays. If you hit what you need to hit with the higher output, you are golden. If it is *juuust* enough, then upgrade to 5/8" hose and be happy. All you'd need is the ubiquitous Harbor Freight Gas Wheelbarrow compressor, $499 at any Harbor Freight location near you and a few bolts for the frame. If it turns you you need more, just add a second pump...it is already for it. Add your 3/4" hose. Lori at PWP carries the Flextech hose, that is my choice in the larger hose sizes. Good stuff. Will run about $360 for 200'. Reel...for the big hose, I'd go Hannay. It ain't cheap but it is the right reel to handle the big stuff. You got to figure about $900 for a big manifoldness Hannay chem reel. Yeah, painful I know, but that reel will last a LONG LONG time. What I'd do then is to plumb the system so that you can run one pumps through the 1/2" hose for smaller roofs and when you get the big tall monsters, switch a connector or a valve, bring on the twins and the big hose and spray the bejeezus out of it. I designed the systems to be expandable and flexible this way.
The 1" is available in Kynar. The 3/4" is only available in Poly. That being said, the Poly they use is rated for 20% SH and it is pretty thick. You'll likely get a lot of years out of it before it becomes a problem.